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How Do We Know Jesus and Not Someone Else is the Son of God?

You don’t. Frankly you never will, or is it possible to ever know or prove. I mean this scientifically as opposed to emotionally for those that “know it in their heart”.

You also don’t know that there is or was ever a son of God or if God exists. You cannot presume if God exists or existed that he created a son-any son- or any daughter, or if he did that he didn’t create lots of them.

Aside from your personal belief, you can’t know. Frankly unless there was a second coming (presuming there actually was a first coming), and some additional evidence presented itself, you never will know. Let me share with you why I say this.

Even if God exists you cannot presume to be right. With billion upon billions of galaxies in our universe each containing Holy Landbillion upon billions of stars with likely even more planets than total stars thereby numbering in the trillions- you’re suggesting your God in which many believe stopped only here? That is what the early church, ignorant of almost everything around it taught for a thousand years.

It is amazing that curious people will spend immense amounts of time researching a myriad of different subjects using an enormous amount of material from all the credible sources they can find, and yet when it comes to learning about the source, history, and validity of their own religious beliefs they turn their back on the very academics they consult for everything else and depend on the bible. The bible is filled with flaws- human flaws–  hundreds of them- from the very people who brought you illiteracy and subjugation and ignorance of everything science. Look at how many times they have been wrong on the past. Why are they right now?

I recently engaged a reader on this site in discussion about the source material I use to read and evaluate. I say evaluate instead of believe because I am willing to change my mind as the evidence on any topic presents itself, this one included. I have beliefs, of course and have thus concluded that an open mind is the best way to approach topics.

There are many theological writings about the Bible and about the stories within it. Theologians write volumes of material about the Bible, using what as their source of factual data? The Bible. They do use other outside works to support their suppositions, mostly written by other theologians employing the same methodology, of basing their works on still earlier works, again written in the same manner. They presume the Bible is a true and factual account of the people, history, culture, and stories within it. The very word theologian in its most professional sense is a person who specializes in religious studies, often from a seminary or school of divinity. Theologians start with a bias, and work toward proving their bias is true. This method is not accepted in academia though it has been known to occur.

There are other gospels not included in the Bible – the Gnostic Gospels – and there are other bodies of work, some written in the second or third centuries. But of all the works cited by theologians, NONE come from the time of Christ. Nothing written in any form has ever been found about Christ from the time of Christ. There are theologians that claim that they have seen written work from the time of Christ. I challenge them to produce it. No academic has ever seen it. No museum possesses it. There are no photographs of it, or inscriptions. The one reference often quoted from a writer named Josephus did not exist in earlier text copies written prior to the tenth century, indicating the reference was forged and added later by scribes to support the divinity of Christ.

On the other hand there are exceptional Biblical scholars – historians and archaeologists who mostly work in academia, who also write volumes of material about what is known, what is unknown, what can be proved, and what cannot so far be proved. Their mission is entirely different, and so is their perspective. They do not believe that the Bible is a history book. Unlike the theologian, the historical scholar and archaeologist is charged with bypassing their beliefs and looking at what can be found, dug up, or demonstrated to come from ancient sources, preferably coincident with the period they are studying. If not, the evidence is often rejected. Provenance is an imperative.

What about the source material for theologians? Is the Bible flawless? Are its facts flawless? How about the Greeks mistranslating the name Red Sea from the words Yam Suph which mean Reed Sea or sea of reeds. The area near Lake Timsah is not the Red Sea, but it is the sea of reeds. How long has this error been known – how about since the 11th century. Did anyone correct it? No. If a flawless book contains flaws- any flaws- it is no longer a flawless book. Unfortunately, this is not the only flaw. There are hundreds of flaws. How can you trust what is stated as fact if it cannot be corroborated? How do we find truth if it exists? How should we explore this?

We have in the past dozen years had many instances of government impropriety. When an instance comes to light, we desire an independent counsel or panel to investigate the event, not the government itself. Why? Because, frankly, we don’t trust our government to investigate itself. We also know that there are scandals in the corporate world which I suspect we would agree should be treated in the same way. There was a scandal within one of the world’s largest organized churches concerning child abuse. As with the government, it took outside investigators to bring out the truth. Do I trust churches and theologians who are affiliated with churches, and church affiliated academic institutions to investigate themselves, No, because they are a business that will do what is right for themselves. They will do what it takes to stay the course.  They have a vested interest in promoting their agenda. There method of finding source material is tainted and suspect.

What if it is correct? Then what they write will be able to be substantiated by others independent of them – those without religious affiliation. So far that is not the case.

Religion is a business. It makes billions of dollars every year. It gets tax free treatment- it has immense power. People who spoke out against it were murdered for centuries. It decided what your bible would contain and not contain so that you wouldn’t question its authority. Some religion is certainly more open today than it was because it has no choice. I don’t accept something just because it is written in the Bible.

Much harm has been done to civilization in the name of religion – more than in any other endeavor.

Much good has come out of religion – our laws, our morals, our compassion, our humanness, our hope.

IF Jesus was more than a mortal man, and there is no proof anywhere that he was, except what was written decades and decades later by pseudonymous Greek writers who wrote the Books of Matthew,  Mark Luke and John, not his purported disciples- yes, this is a known and accepted fact among non-theologian biblical academics – it is only disputed (without proof) by theologians who have a vested interest in it not being true. It is more  probable that a superhuman Jesus was the offspring of an extraterrestrial encounter (for the record I believe that idea is total nonsense) than from your super-being. Statistically that is at least a possibility though not a probability.

So does Jesus exist? Did Jesus exist? Here’s a way to show it scientifically, at least in a theoretical sense. Scientists now believe that it is likely we live in a multiverse – where many universes are each separated by about 40 trillion lightyears. There is a finite amount of atoms in our universe. If you were to combine and put together every possible combination of those atoms, you could only do it a certain number of times before you would repeat what you had done.

Because of this scientists have come to believe that somewhere in the multiverse you would find another universe with a planet just like earth. You would also find an earth in one of them with someone just like you. In an infinite universe with a finite number of combinations, our universe repeats an infinite number of times, and so does earth, and so does Jesus. This does not mean he has powers beyond being mortal. But if this theory is correct, there is some place in the multiverse where someone just like him exists.

What are your thoughts?

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